(...) At the Berklee School of Music I've got a class of forty. I said, "I want you to do something. When I give you a down beat I want you to all start talking, and none of you stop. Just keep talking." I gave them the down beat. It went on, and they started laughing. And then finally I cut them off and I said, "That's the current state of jazz. Everybody is talking and nobody is listening."